Comments on: Feeling Bitacle http://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/ web 2.0, blogs and social media Mon, 30 May 2011 20:58:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Billy The Blogging Poethttp://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/#comment-506 Billy The Blogging Poet Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:06:02 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2006/09/22/bitacle/#comment-506 Ian, Rather than repeat myself on a hundred different blogs I updated my post where you left your comments with links to a way to deal with scrapers I've used successfully many times. That said: unless you set your RSS feeds to short you are doomed to repeat this same thing on a pretty regular basis-- like it or not. Ian,
Rather than repeat myself on a hundred different blogs I updated my post where you left your comments with links to a way to deal with scrapers I’ve used successfully many times. That said: unless you set your RSS feeds to short you are doomed to repeat this same thing on a pretty regular basis– like it or not.

]]> By: Ian Delaneyhttp://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/#comment-502 Ian Delaney Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:22:12 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2006/09/22/bitacle/#comment-502 As I said, it breaches the Creative Commons license I have put on this site. So, yes, I do have a problem. Any idea how to proceed? As I said, it breaches the Creative Commons license I have put on this site. So, yes, I do have a problem.

Any idea how to proceed?

]]> By: Amy Gahranhttp://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/#comment-501 Amy Gahran Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:15:59 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2006/09/22/bitacle/#comment-501 "the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers." Google and Yahoo especially should be mindful of how their encouragement of splogs directly undermines the usefulness of their own search engines. Also, I guess if you're getting a link back from a splog and that makes you happy, then that's your business. Personally, Id have a problem with that, but to each their own. - Amy Gahran “the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers.”

Google and Yahoo especially should be mindful of how their encouragement of splogs directly undermines the usefulness of their own search engines.

Also, I guess if you’re getting a link back from a splog and that makes you happy, then that’s your business. Personally, Id have a problem with that, but to each their own.

- Amy Gahran

]]> By: Ian Delaneyhttp://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/#comment-500 Ian Delaney Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:02:11 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2006/09/22/bitacle/#comment-500 Thanks for the great information. It's where we draw the line between aggregators and splogs, I guess - I publish a full text feed because I think it's the right thing to do. But I don't want someone else to make money out of my content without my permission. The CC license is there for a reason. It's also on my feed via feedburner. Good point that the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers. Thanks for the great information.

It’s where we draw the line between aggregators and splogs, I guess — I publish a full text feed because I think it’s the right thing to do. But I don’t want someone else to make money out of my content without my permission. The CC license is there for a reason. It’s also on my feed via feedburner.

Good point that the advertising networks ought to be thinking a lot more about the value they are delivering to both publishers and advertisers.

]]> By: Amy Gahranhttp://twopointouch.com/2006/stuff/bitacle/#comment-499 Amy Gahran Fri, 22 Sep 2006 21:32:14 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2006/09/22/bitacle/#comment-499 Hi, Ian Yeah, this Bitacle splog has received a lot of attention lately. although, as far as I can tell, it's just another splog -- maybe more sophisticated and ambitious in terms of whose content, and how much content, it steals -- but otherwise, just another splog. The more I think over this splogger problem, the more I think it's futile and even counterproductive to try to hunt down and shut down individual sploggers. They're not the real problem. They're just opportunists. The REAL problem is that Google, Yahoo, and other online ad network providers have their programs set up in such a way that actively *encourages* sploggers. It does no good to stamp out a few cockroaches. You have to stop them from breeding. I just wrote more about this at Contentious: http://tinyurl.com/rvp7t Thanks! - Amy Gahran Hi, Ian

Yeah, this Bitacle splog has received a lot of attention lately. although, as far as I can tell, it’s just another splog — maybe more sophisticated and ambitious in terms of whose content, and how much content, it steals — but otherwise, just another splog.

The more I think over this splogger problem, the more I think it’s futile and even counterproductive to try to hunt down and shut down individual sploggers.

They’re not the real problem. They’re just opportunists. The REAL problem is that Google, Yahoo, and other online ad network providers have their programs set up in such a way that actively *encourages* sploggers.

It does no good to stamp out a few cockroaches. You have to stop them from breeding.

I just wrote more about this at Contentious: http://tinyurl.com/rvp7t

Thanks!

- Amy Gahran

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