Rules of Engagement

engagement-ringSome inter­esting dis­cus­sion over the last couple of days about the neces­sity for a new kind of metric for meas­uring the effect­ive­ness of blogs. Robert Scoble talks about the dif­fer­ence between getting page impres­sions (bad) and engage­ment (good):

There’s another stat out there called “engage­ment.” No one is meas­uring it that I know of.

What do I mean?

Well, I’ve compared notes with several bloggers and journ­al­ists and when the Register links to us we get almost no traffic. But they claim to have millions of readers. So, if millions of people are hanging out there but no one is willing to click a link, that means their audience has low engage­ment. The Register is among the lowest that I can see.

It kind of ties in with the recent talk about which are the most influ­en­tial blogs, and the lists pub­lished by Edelman/​Technorati of the top 50 bloggers in various coun­tries, according to inbound links. The rankings have proven quite con­tro­ver­sial, and I’ve seen a number of altern­ative lists (those three are for the UK alone). What exactly should we be measuring?

Traditional metrics, page views and users, would appear to do a poor job of showing either how engaged the audience is or how influ­en­tial the writer is.

Inbound links seem to be a slightly better measure, though the flaws in that system are that (a) it only counts fellow bloggers, not general readers; (b) the most estab­lished bloggers, the A-​​list cartel, if you like, are accused of only ever linking to each other; © you might link to someone because you think they are wrong — it’s a good way to man­u­fac­ture a story from thin air; and (d) it favours main­stream blogs over specialists.

Another stance you might take is that the number of comments on a blog give a good indic­a­tion of influ­ence and engage­ment. I quite like this. Obviously people are engaged if they get off their back­sides and par­ti­cipate, aren’t they? Then I thought of a couple of problems. It would seem to favour con­tro­ver­sial­ists over what the majority thinks, yet that doesn’t really mean they have a lot of influ­ence; it just means they get people’s backs up. It is also affected by the style of writing — I would assume that someone who asks ques­tions on their blog gets more responses than those who make statements.

Scoble con­tinues, illus­trating why a small, engaged audience might be a lot more important than a large, dis­en­gaged one. He also inad­vert­ently suggests another possible meas­ure­ment of this key property:

Yesterday Buzz Bruggeman CEO of Active Words, was driving me around and told the story of when he was in USA Today. He got 32 down­loads. When he got linked to by my blog? Got about 400.

My audience was (and is) a lot smaller than USA Today, but the engage­ment of the blog audience got his attention.

That kind of suggests to me that there’s more fairness to the system than might ini­tially appear. If response rates are higher when the call to action comes from an engaging blog, then ulti­mately, those engaging writers will be more successful.

Right. Can I have some money, please?

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6 comments to Rules of Engagement

  • Ian, this is a terrific dis­cus­sion. Thanks for posting. I always saw the blo­go­sphere in terms of islands of con­ver­sa­tions and referral carries more weight than a casual click. I know my own habits have changed, if I have a moment to spare, I go look for the good blogs on any of our member sites. This isn’t a plug for TGB but I know the com­munity and more often than not, I’ll find some­thing I like. Maybe big portals are on the way out.

  • Hi Vern… plug away! Think you’re right about big portal sites, at least for people like you and I.

    Hmmm. I dis­covered why Scoble might have it in for The Register. It rather unkindly called him a “globule” in their report about the Dell blog. Not very nice.

  • Ian… fant­astic… it is just what we need in the debate.

    You don’t get the money yet.

    It is one thing to see response in one medium. But to be extra valuable, there is a need to see how values jump from one channel to the next. If the value is in a blog post, does it also have value in .… a podcast… news­paper.… super­market shelf. Then the driver of the value is even greater.

    As an aside. There can be no question about big portals. They can, as best, offer a version of scream mar­keting. A list that gets in the way of inform­a­tion or engage­ment is as bad as the pop-​​up and spam mail.

    As RSS and similar tech­no­lo­gies mature, the inform­a­tion people seek will go to them and that which they do not want will not be included — that is how this post came to me.

  • Bob Boydston

    Who are the con­sumers of such meas­ure­ments, be they through the Engagement method proffered in this article or through the old methods?

    One can say for an advert­iser accurate meas­ure­ments are neces­sary so that a price for the advert­ise­ment can be nego­ti­ated. Conversely, for the owner of a site, accurate meas­ure­ments are important to get ads and to plan for the future. If the owner has investors, these meas­ure­ments indicate success or failure. For the advert­iser, no matter what the meas­ure­ment, if there were no sales from the ads, then the cost was too high.

    Scoble writes that the Engagement method is a better measure but I don’t really see any precise defin­i­tions. I get a warm and fuzzy feeling about it, but what from the present­a­tion here, I am not con­vinced. One of the comments in Scoble’s article presented “Kirkpatrick’s Levels.” This, to me, has more merit but I doubt the meas­ur­ab­ility. Here are the levels according to Robert:

    Kirkpatrick’s Level’s
    1. Reactions (they heard you)
    2. Learning (they under­stood and retained)
    3. Transfer (they took in the inform­a­tion and can apply)
    4. Results (they use the learning to achieve a goal)

    Robert proposes a site equi­valent as follows:

    1. Click — A reader arrived (current metric)
    2. Consume — A reader read the content
    3. Understood — A reader under­stood the content and remem­bers
    4. Applied — A reader applies the content in another venue

    1 and 2 are meas­ur­able, but 3 and 4 are less. My comment here is demon­strative of 3 and 4 as I am under­standing and remem­bering (3) and applying it another venue, i.e. your blog (4). But, how does that get measured for the first blog?

    Some comments here and there try to equate “like­ab­ility” to “pop­ularity”. But, I don’t think that really matters. Some of the most famous people are those you don’t like. Controversy gen­er­ates traffic and traffic is what advert­isers like.

    So, I like the dir­ec­tion of Kirkpatrick’s meas­ure­ments but I don’t know how they are feasible.

  • Wow. Great comments there. I hadn’t followed the comments thread on Robert’s post, but I clearly should do before I post further on this subject. The popular posts plug-​​in on my side-​​bar uses about 6 dif­ferent meas­ure­ments to judge what’s popular. I wonder if anyone can do that across the blo­go­sphere? Will try to do an update on the dis­cus­sion tomorrow.

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