The WSJ hosts a debate between two venture capitalists on whether we’re in a Web 2.0 bubble. The participants are Todd Dagres, founder and general partner of Spark Capital in Boston and David Hornik, a general partner with August Capital in Menlo Park. Don’t expect to come away from the article with a strong opinion one way or another, but do expect to feel a lot better informed. The participants reach some consensus on the idea that, “great entrepreneurs are the key to building valuable companies.”
Mr. Dagres begins: Web 2.0 is a bubble for 3 reasons: 1) There is far too much money chasing Web 2.0 deals. Too much money means too many companies getting funded at higher valuations. 2) There are virtually no barriers to entry in Web 2.0 and therefore the ability to develop a unique solution and sustain a competitive advantage is virtually nil. Therefore, it’s difficult for Web 2.0 companies to build long term value. 3) There is very little liquidity in the market for Web 2.0 companies. The Dow was recently at a high and still no liquidity. Without liquidity, Web 2.0 companies must rely on acquisitions to achieve liquidity and this will put a lid on the potential exit options and ultimate valuations of these companies. In short, they will be playing a musical chairs game in which there are far too many players and too few chairs.
There are some similarities between the current “bubble” and the last one that burst in 2000: Lots of incomplete and under-experienced teams, business models based more on eyeballs than cash flow, and a rash of incremental and “me too” deals.
Mr. Hornik responds: I do not believe that the existence of too much venture capital money chasing too few interesting ideas constitutes a bubble. The Web 1.0 bubble inflated because the public markets were willing to bet on unproven ideas. Public markets are ill suited to evaluating such risks. On the other hand, the venture capital community exists precisely to take on that risk. While many Web 2.0 companies will fail, they will not likely fail in significantly greater proportions than has been the case with other venture investments historically. So it is hard to imagine how this so-called bubble will over-inflate. Venture capitalists will rationally stop investing in ideas that don’t bear fruit. Those that do bear fruit will gain traction and either be acquired or go public. Those are the traits of a rational market in my mind.
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Mr. Dagres: I agree that there will be interesting companies coming out of the Web 2.0 wave. Every wave has its winners and losers. The notion of a bubble, however, is that a particular market gets overdone, i.e. over-hyped, over-invested, and ultimately experiences a high mortality rate. I think the Web 2.0 space will have a higher mortality rate than other segments of the overall media and technology industries. There are far too many MySpace and YouTube genetically challenged clones. All but a few will fail. The winners are generally the ones that get in early and out before the bubble bursts. There are rare examples of bubble companies making it through the bust and going on to become successful and valuable companies. By the way, the combined cash flow of Spot Runner, LinkedIn and Facebook is less than that of one Costco store.
The debate continues here…
Also note the following table from the TNL.net blog which shows that while there have been some enormous deals (MySpace, YouTube), the average Web 2.0 acquisition is somewhat more modest.
| Feb-03 | Blogger | $20 million (rumored) | |
| Jul-04 | Picasa | Under $5 million (rumored) | |
| Jul-04 | Oddpost | Yahoo | $20 million (rumored) |
| Jul-04 | Webshots | Cnet Networks | $71 million |
| Jan-05 | LiveJournal | SixApart | $20 million (rumored) |
| Feb-05 | Bloglines | IAC (AskJeeves) | $25 million (rumored) |
| Mar-05 | Flickr | Yahoo | $30–35 million (rumored) |
| May-05 | Dodgeball | Around $10 million (rumored) | |
| Jul-05 | MySpace | News Corp | $580 million |
| Sep-05 | Skype | Ebay | $2.6 billion |
| Oct-05 | Weblogs Inc. | AOL | $25 million (rumored) |
| Oct-05 | weblogs.com | Verisign | $2.3 million |
| Oct-05 | Upcoming.org | Yahoo | Around $1 million (rumored) |
| Dec-05 | del.icio.us | Yahoo | $30–35 million (rumored) |
| Jan-06 | WebJay | Yahoo | Around $1 million (rumored) |
| Feb-06 | MeasureMap | Less than $5 million (rumored) | |
| Mar-06 | Writely | Around $10 million (rumored) | |
| Aug-06 | Grouper | Sony | $65 million |
| Sep-06 | Rojo | SixApart | $10 million (rumored) |
| Sep-06 | Jumpcut | Yahoo | $15 million (rumored) |
| Oct-06 | YouTube | $1.65 billion |






















The only bubble we’re in is the Google bubble (guggle?)
What happens when suddenly there is a far superior search experience? People switching in large numbers would send their stick tumbling.