Comments on: Tag Cloud 2.0 http://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/ web 2.0, blogs and social media Mon, 30 May 2011 20:58:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: » Re-Reading Web 2.0 Infographics twopointouchhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-13088 » Re-Reading Web 2.0 Infographics twopointouch Mon, 11 May 2009 20:21:40 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-13088 [...] actually a big fan of tag-clouds – as I’ve mentioned before. I think they encourage exploration, individual journeys and also give an instantly understood [...] […] actually a big fan of tag-clouds – as I’ve mentioned before. I think they encourage exploration, individual journeys and also give an instantly understood […]

]]> By: Lord Andrew J. Andrews IIhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-11043 Lord Andrew J. Andrews II Mon, 21 May 2007 06:08:29 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-11043 Man, I love me some tag clouds. As an amateur student of memetics, they allow a graphical representation of the unique and organic memetic environment that as of yet has gone unseen. I'm interested in trying to produce some kind of work as to how tag clouds can be used to represent the growth and demise of an idea or concept in real time - if you know of any resources that might be of assistance in that noble quest, totally hook a brother up, yo. Man, I love me some tag clouds. As an amateur student of memetics, they allow a graphical representation of the unique and organic memetic environment that as of yet has gone unseen. I’m interested in trying to produce some kind of work as to how tag clouds can be used to represent the growth and demise of an idea or concept in real time — if you know of any resources that might be of assistance in that noble quest, totally hook a brother up, yo.

]]> By: links for 2007-01-23 | Mike Stopforthhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9561 links for 2007-01-23 | Mike Stopforth Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:21:43 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9561 [...] Tag Cloud 2.0 | twopointouch: web 2.0, blogs and social media Great article from Ian Delaney on tagging (folksonomies) and their prevalence in all things 2.0 (tags: tagging tags folksonomy folksonomies web2.0 enterprise2.0) [...] […] Tag Cloud 2.0 | twopointouch: web 2.0, blogs and social media Great article from Ian Delaney on tagging (folksonomies) and their prevalence in all things 2.0 (tags: tagging tags folksonomy folksonomies web2.0 enterprise2.0) […]

]]> By: Moritz Stefanerhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9536 Moritz Stefaner Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:54:51 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9536 Hi, thanks for bringing this up and linking to my experiment! I posted an update and some of my thoughts on the topic at http://well-formed-data.net/archives/42/tag-maps-update An version of my "elastic tag maps" animated over time can be found at: http://well-formed-data.net/archives/38/emerging-topics (It would be great if you could replace the screenshot with one of the more recent pictures from my post.) Hi,

thanks for bringing this up and linking to my experiment! I posted an update and some of my thoughts on the topic at http://well-formed-data.net/archives/42/tag-maps-update

An version of my “elastic tag maps” animated over time can be found at: http://well-formed-data.net/archives/38/emerging-topics

(It would be great if you could replace the screenshot with one of the more recent pictures from my post.)

]]> By: Mark Woodmanhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9467 Mark Woodman Mon, 22 Jan 2007 06:42:38 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9467 Ian, Great discussion. I've never been a tag cloud fan per se, but I'm convinced there is a Threshold of the Obvious that somebody will break through on this sooner than later. (At which point we'll all facepalm and say, "why didn't I think of that?") In the meantime, if anybody has suggestions for the Tag Constellation, I'm all ears. My goal is to have something intuitive and DHTML-based, rather than require Flash. That may prove too limiting, but only time will tell. A more interesting constellation view can be found on Jan 9, right around when the iPhone was announced: http://labs.techbrew.net/jetstream/constellation.php?date=2007-01-09 Regards, Mark Ian,

Great discussion. I’ve never been a tag cloud fan per se, but I’m convinced there is a Threshold of the Obvious that somebody will break through on this sooner than later. (At which point we’ll all facepalm and say, “why didn’t I think of that?”)

In the meantime, if anybody has suggestions for the Tag Constellation, I’m all ears. My goal is to have something intuitive and DHTML-based, rather than require Flash. That may prove too limiting, but only time will tell.

A more interesting constellation view can be found on Jan 9, right around when the iPhone was announced:

http://labs.techbrew.net/jetstream/constellation.php?date=2007–01-09

Regards,

Mark

]]> By: Ian Delaneyhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9416 Ian Delaney Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:00:13 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9416 Great comment, Bob. Tag clouds are a metaphor and just as we can see more 'weight' in some real-life clouds than others thanks to their colour, colouration in Web 2.0 tag clouds - the next step, I think - is a natural extension, not a paradigm jump. Great comment, Bob. Tag clouds are a metaphor and just as we can see more ‘weight’ in some real-life clouds than others thanks to their colour, colouration in Web 2.0 tag clouds — the next step, I think — is a natural extension, not a paradigm jump.

]]> By: Bob Boydstonhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9415 Bob Boydston Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:44:02 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9415 Thanks for the research on this subject! I don't know where and why the concept began (hence the word) but I can see that a on a site a Web 2. tag cloud, in many ways, looks like a cloud in the sky, but in fact infers something more. If the objects in the tag cloud pertain to subject matters and that a larger one means that that subject matter is more popular than a other objects, it simulates in many ways a real cloud in the sky in that the cloud has darker and lighter matter inside (it's funny there are no clouds in the sky as I am writing. I wanted one so that I could use it as my example!). Your point is that the concept as it is used right now is limited simply because computers and software are still not "intelligent" machines where meaning can be better represented. Your question is how is that can be accomplished. What I like about Web 2.0 is that we are asking questions like this as it applies to our applications. In contrast, questions like these were begin asked about computers during birth of computers. Thanks for the research on this subject!

I don’t know where and why the concept began (hence the word) but I can see that a on a site a Web 2. tag cloud, in many ways, looks like a cloud in the sky, but in fact infers something more. If the objects in the tag cloud pertain to subject matters and that a larger one means that that subject matter is more popular than a other objects, it simulates in many ways a real cloud in the sky in that the cloud has darker and lighter matter inside (it’s funny there are no clouds in the sky as I am writing. I wanted one so that I could use it as my example!).

Your point is that the concept as it is used right now is limited simply because computers and software are still not “intelligent” machines where meaning can be better represented. Your question is how is that can be accomplished.

What I like about Web 2.0 is that we are asking questions like this as it applies to our applications. In contrast, questions like these were begin asked about computers during birth of computers.

]]> By: Ian Delaneyhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9407 Ian Delaney Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:02:51 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9407 I've seen Kids Quintura, Yakov, and I think it's great. The only reason it wasn't mentioned in this post is that I wouldn't have had anything more to say about it than vanilla Quintura. Good news about the affiliate program - I'd love a more interactive visualisation tool here. I’ve seen Kids Quintura, Yakov, and I think it’s great. The only reason it wasn’t mentioned in this post is that I wouldn’t have had anything more to say about it than vanilla Quintura.

Good news about the affiliate program — I’d love a more interactive visualisation tool here.

]]> By: Yakovhttp://twopointouch.com/2007/web-2-0/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9404 Yakov Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:11:13 +0000 http://twopointouch.com/2007/01/20/tag-cloud-20/#comment-9404 Ian, please check Quintura for Kids at http://kids.quintura.com You can see phrases in a kid-related tag cloud out there. Re: visualizing blog links - it's an interesting idea! We are going to have an affiliate program - you will be able to create an interactive Quintura tag cloud for a navigation through your blog and for web search. Ian, please check Quintura for Kids at http://kids.quintura.com You can see phrases in a kid-related tag cloud out there. Re: visualizing blog links — it’s an interesting idea! We are going to have an affiliate program — you will be able to create an interactive Quintura tag cloud for a navigation through your blog and for web search.

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