Geist in the Machine

And so to Mashup* DEMO: fifteen-​​or-​​so five-​​minute present­a­tions from new or new-​​ish web com­panies, presented one after another, without ques­tions. I quite enjoy this style of event, though I reckon an addi­tional three minutes for ques­tions to each of the outfits rep­res­ented would have added a lot of value. At the very least, though, it provided a bit of a crash course into the current state of Web 2.0 UK.

Video

Web TV con­tinues to bubble away. This came in the form of a mar­keting tool — 15SecondTV per­son­al­ises video clips — the example was the presenter’s face super­im­posed onto a char­acter in a clip from 300. Brands can create a Simpsonize-​​Me style exper­i­ence in video and poten­tially feed it back onto users’ mobile phones. BabelTV — no relation to Babelgum, appar­ently, and who don’t appear to have a web site (update: it’s http://www.babel.tv/) — is at the other extreme, offering an actual physical appli­ance similar to Media Centre PCs, but with what looked like a rather more fool­proof inter­face than Redmond can cur­rently provide, and which integ­rates back-​​up to a central server to create more of an internet appli­ance than a computer. Lastly, came Testcard.tv. This is an internet video aggreg­ator, akin to TIOTI: it can find and play episodes of your favourite shows from various online sources. I have to wonder about the legality of these kinds of services. Were I a savagely liti­gious media company, like err… every media company, I’d have them shut down as soon as I heard of them. Like pir­atebay, they could claim that they’re simply dir­ect­ories of content, not pub­lishers, though I reckon including a site-​​specific player — like Testcard has done — tips them into the status of pub­lisher, and thus exposure to IP suits. Let’s see.

Local

WeLoveLocal and Tipped and Rummble were the latest incarn­a­tions of local search incor­por­ating recom­mend­a­tions and reviews from friends (cf. FridayCities, TrustedPlaces in the UK alone). All these services seem to suffer a common flaw: there isn’t enough content on them for them to be useful for new users. There are no reviews of ‘florists’ in ‘Mortlake’ on any of those services; Tipped returned zero results (there are about six of them). Why shouldn’t I save time and just use Google Local instead? And what incentive do users have to add a review of anything? The pro­lif­er­a­tion of these almost identical services leads me to think that there’s also going to be a fair amount of ration­al­isa­tion soon cf. the gazil­lion social book­marking services that were around this time next last year. The one that manages to import networks from Facebook or MySpace — or creates a two-​​way widget for those services — probably stands the strongest chance of survival. [added] Let’s hope it isn’t just about funding and a war of attrition.

Other

Mobestar makes social networks for mobile com­munities, a white-​​label ‘off portal’ solution that brands could use to deploy mobile networks in short order. One inter­esting feature is the ability to conduct anonymised voice or video calls. Sounds poten­tially useful for dating or adult sites.

roll­Sense is a blog widget which finds inter­esting posts from your blogroll using con­tex­tual inform­a­tion to find related posts. Quite a neat idea, let down by exe­cu­tion — you can’t just add your whole blogroll, or let it auto­mat­ic­ally grab it from WordPress or Google Reader. No, you add them one at a time.

meecard is an online business card that you can put into your blog or email sig­na­ture and thus connect readers to your various online pres­ences. Bit like pro­filactic, but with some auto­ma­tion of the profile creation, I gather.

Kwiqq provides social networks for brands. They have a library of social widgets that they can put together with varying business logic and present­a­tion layers to create very dif­ferent social sites quickly. Jack gave the example of the 2wentys site they put together for First Choice holidays: +100% internet bookings for the firm in just two months provided a pretty com­pel­ling case for pro­pri­etary networks, though I reckon finding the right product or service to base that around probably makes a big dif­fer­ence to the results.

Serena mashup composer allows “ordinary” users to create their own cor­porate mash-​​ups, without the involve­ment of cor­porate IT. I’ve tried a couple of these tools and would rather involve IT, on reflection.

edocr is about document inter­activity — YouTube for doc­u­ments — a lot like scribd. Having signed up for the ‘Friends of edocr’ group on Facebook, I’m going to have a closer look at this and hope­fully find some­thing more con­structive to say about it.

Brandwatch is a social media mon­it­oring tool for brands. You can see what the blo­go­sphere (and social networks) is saying about you. It renders this as a score and a graph, with drill­down into the results. It strikes me that it’s easy enough to do this with free tools and also that if you’re sat­is­fied that you’re doing enough to monitor your brand by looking at a graph, then you’re not really cut out for a job in repu­ta­tion management.

Fav.or.it is a new RSS reader, plus com­menting, plus blog-​​writing, plus ungame-​​able recom­mend­a­tion solution. It looks abso­lutely fant­astic, but unfor­tu­nately there’s no reason for me to write about it here, since Mike wrote everything you could possibly want to know about the service yes­terday. I’ll def­in­itely be giving it a whirl, though. About time Google Reader and Digg and Bloglines faced some serious com­pet­i­tion, eh?

Bondaii aka. Mobiglu is a ‘per­vasive identity bonding’ solution. Your mobile phone (perhaps) as your personal key to every aspect of managing your identity. All our ‘things’ are becoming con­nected to the cloud, but they exist in digital bubbles. Connecting all those bubbles together could poten­tially make all those bubbles a lot more useful as they become aware of your pref­er­ences and rela­tion­ships, etc. The short story pub­lished by Cory Doctorow the other day makes for an enter­taining lunch­time read, and ably demon­strates why this sort of thing ought to be abso­lutely ter­ri­fying to any right-​​minded person.

Phew. You probably feel, dear reader, like I did at the end of the session. I reckon we deserve a pint.

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16 comments to Geist in the Machine

  • Great write-​​up Ian. Shame a security alert on my trains meant I couldn’t make it.

  • Yeah. I left the event before the party to get work done. Then got ‘security-​​alerted’ for an hour. Need to get work to pay for web-​​as-​​you-​​walk or similar.

  • Hi Ian, good summary of the event, I too think a QandA would have been a good addition.

    I think you’re right local, services such as ours need to gain a critial mass of reviews, it’s our top priority, and will be for sometime. Looking across the pond, it took Yelp some 2 and a half years to get the traction it now has, and TripAdvisor even longer.

    The point you raise about Facebook and the other social networks is right too. We don’t expect WLL to define your time online, merely be an exten­sion of it. We plug in with facebook, we offer an API, and we’re working on tools for bloggers and local com­munities too. In fact if there is a way you want to play with WLL that we haven’t thought of you’re welcome to drop us an email.

    Finally, while Google offers some great tools, it’s hardly local, if you ask me Google would work much better as engine for local sites such as ours, rather than a com­pet­itor, but that’s a dif­ferent story.

    It’s an exciting time in the local space in the UK, the yellow books days are numbered and there is lots of startups who want a piece of the action.

  • Great comments, Daniel. The ‘winner’, I think, will incentivise users somehow and hook into the popular social networks.

    Don’t get how you are more local than Google Local Search.They do an excel­lent job on aggreg­ating news. If they cared enough about this space, they’d do the same on local reviews. And they’d lock you out of maps at the same time.

  • Ian, thanks for the write up. Acknowledge there are lot of sim­il­ar­ities between scribd, docstoc and us. Our con­cen­tra­tion is on cor­porate doc­u­ments such as product articles, white papers, press releases, case studies, etc.

    We will also target certain segments, such as EIPP (e-​​invoicing) — this could lead to edocr having the largest database of EIPP doc­u­ments in the world.

    It’s early days. Keep com­menting. And once again thanks for the coverage

    Best regards Manoj

  • Manoj, Daniel: I deserve the heat for this opin­ion­ated coverage, but if I don’t add my own (unin­formed) opinion — to be cor­rectly bashed — then I’m not adding any value, I think.

    On edocr, I picked up on the cor­porate angle listening to your present­a­tion, but why then have a public database of doc­u­ments? Surely, that is the last thing any corp would want and sends out totally the wrong message?

  • Ian thanks for your response. In future, edocr might offer number of broader func­tion­ality, e.g. private secure data space for M&A Data Room (we have a poten­tial client asking for this service).

    Right now, we provide an envir­on­ment for public facing doc­u­ments that you could find in public domain, i.e. gen­er­ally from websites of com­panies. These websites do not provide inter­activity for business doc­u­ments, hence the birth of edocr.

    “My edocr” yet to be fully built will provide on one side (say left hand) per­form­ance of your uploads, and on the right hand side the doc­u­ments you want, e.g. you inform edocr that you are looking for most recent white papers with more than five comments on “private mobile radio”. As the relevant doc­u­ments are uploaded, these will appear on “your edocr”. Now we begin to add value.

    The benefits are obvious to some users. Other’s do not get it. So, on our part, con­tinuous and con­sistent edu­ca­tion is needed. And this is where you and other bloggers (like myself) can help. Please continue to engage in con­ver­sa­tion. On behalf of edocr team, we appre­ciate your engage­ment very much.

  • Hi Ian. Excellent write up and thanks for the mention.

  • Hi Ian,

    Thanks for the write up and glad you found roll­Sense interesting.

    We have been in other startup events and I must say the Mashup Demo has been one of the most useful events to date. Very inter­esting and friendly people, easy chatting, good atmo­sphere and free drinks! ;) On the other hand, I think we were the only non-​​UK company, so I guess this event could benefit from more inter­na­tional exposure.

    Regarding our service, actually you don’t need to enter each and every url by hand, which I agree is a tedious task. You can also upload your OPML file, which is the most standard way avail­able today to list the feeds in your blogroll. Almost any feed reader supports exporting all your feeds as an OPML file. Google Reader cer­tainly does under the Settings — Import/​Export tab.

    Nevertheless, I com­pletely agree that an extra level of auto­ma­tion would be better, i.e. auto­mat­ic­ally grabbing your Google Reader feeds or your WordPress blogroll. Thanks for the advice.

  • Hey Ian, don’t worry about throwing in your own opinion, it makes the world a much more inter­esting place.

    On the topic of Google, I think the problem it faces is that local means some­thing dif­ferent to everyone. To para­phrase Simon Willison, in London it’s about where the nearest tube is, and in Oxford it is about where to lock up your bike. This kind of inform­a­tion can only be determ­ined through close inter­ac­tion with local com­munities, some­thing a mono­lithic company like Google will struggle to do.

    That said I com­pletely agree that as a repub­lisher (call it aggreg­ator if you like) Google has real strength, but in that scenario it still needs sites like ours to fuel it.

    I think Google’s local API is where it’s strength lies, the geo-​​spatial work they do and the search that sites like ours can leverage. Imagine if Google provided an accurate, freely avail­able dir­ectory of busi­nesses all over the world that any local site could plug in, now that would be cool.

  • Ian, pleasure to have met you today. Best regards, Manoj

  • @Manoj — you too — I love freaky coin­cid­ences like that!

    @Daniel — inter­esting thoughts about the meaning of local and why a mul­tina­tional will struggle to create an algorithm for ‘locality’.

    @Ramon — I saw the feature but it fell down with my OPML of around 250 feeds.

  • Ian,

    Thanks for the mention of Serena Mashup Composer (www.serena.com/mashups) . While we have talked quite a bit about how business users can also use the product, we are by no means excluding IT.
    There is def­in­itely an applic­a­tion for IT to use this for rapid applic­a­tion devel­op­ment to also address the long tail of IT applications.

    Since we plan to offer online deploy­ment, enlightened CIOs and IT depart­ments will also give access to these types of tools to their internal cus­tomers in the business as long as they can feel secure that it meets their gov­ernance guidelines.

    Happy to talk about it anytime if you’d like.

    Kyle

  • Kyle — I guess three minutes was a bit tight for you to explain your service, and for me to under­stand it. I’ll try to find time to look at it more closely.

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