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> <channel><title>Comments on: Social Media ROI, Again</title> <atom:link href="http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/</link> <description>web 2.0, blogs and social media</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 20:58:01 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3</generator> <item><title>By: Ian Delaney</title><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/#comment-14066</link> <dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:12:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://twopointouch.com/?p=1282#comment-14066</guid> <description>&lt;em&gt;They understand iPhones and go with their gut. They are ignorant and fearful of YouTube and say no.&lt;/em&gt;
I don&#039;t think we&#039;re in much disagreement. My caveat was that you thus have to provide enough information about the benefits of the videos plus some back-of-envelope calculations to make clients feel as comfortable about the decision.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>They understand iPhones and go with their gut. They are ignorant and fearful of YouTube and say no.</em></p><p>I don’t think we’re in much disagreement. My caveat was that you thus have to provide enough information about the benefits of the videos plus some back-of-envelope calculations to make clients feel as comfortable about the decision.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Meerman Scott</title><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/#comment-14065</link> <dc:creator>David Meerman Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:48:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://twopointouch.com/?p=1282#comment-14065</guid> <description>Ian - on the iPhones. Yes, of course.
But is there REALLY someone who sits down and CALCULATES (actually calculates) the ROI of investing in iPhones?? NO WAY.
At every company I&#039;ve worked for and with, it is a casual decision where executives get together and say &quot;We can make the salespeople more productive if we give them all iPhones. It will cost $2,000 a year each. They will sell more because they will be more efficient. Let&#039;s do it.&quot;
Nobody actually calculates the ROI by measuring salespeoples&#039; increased productivity rates during the year due to having the iPhones vs. not and compare against the assumptions made during the original decision, do they?
I say bullshit on that - they don&#039;t. And if a company actually does, I want to know about it.
So why, I want to know, do the same executives hold feet to the fire for MBA-driven spreadsheet analysis for something equally fundamental like having YouTube videos on the company Web site???
Answer is simple. They understand iPhones and go with their gut. They are ignorant and fearful of YouTube and say no.
David</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian — on the iPhones. Yes, of course.</p><p>But is there REALLY someone who sits down and CALCULATES (actually calculates) the ROI of investing in iPhones?? NO WAY.</p><p>At every company I’ve worked for and with, it is a casual decision where executives get together and say “We can make the salespeople more productive if we give them all iPhones. It will cost $2,000 a year each. They will sell more because they will be more efficient. Let’s do it.”</p><p>Nobody actually calculates the ROI by measuring salespeoples’ increased productivity rates during the year due to having the iPhones vs. not and compare against the assumptions made during the original decision, do they?</p><p>I say bullshit on that — they don’t. And if a company actually does, I want to know about it.</p><p>So why, I want to know, do the same executives hold feet to the fire for MBA-driven spreadsheet analysis for something equally fundamental like having YouTube videos on the company Web site???</p><p>Answer is simple. They understand iPhones and go with their gut. They are ignorant and fearful of YouTube and say no.</p><p>David</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ian Delaney</title><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/#comment-14064</link> <dc:creator>Ian Delaney</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:36:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://twopointouch.com/?p=1282#comment-14064</guid> <description>Thanks for stopping by, David - you clearly captured something that a lot of people are wondering about - and in a way that really invited discussion.
On the telephones point - sure - however, some companies provide iPhones for their employees whereas others provide basic landlines. The decision between these is clearly going to be based on how much value the extra investment is likely to deliver.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by, David — you clearly captured something that a lot of people are wondering about — and in a way that really invited discussion.</p><p>On the telephones point — sure — however, some companies provide iPhones for their employees whereas others provide basic landlines. The decision between these is clearly going to be based on how much value the extra investment is likely to deliver.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Meerman Scott</title><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/#comment-14063</link> <dc:creator>David Meerman Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:18:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://twopointouch.com/?p=1282#comment-14063</guid> <description>Jamie -- why not listen to my clip before you imply something about it??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie — why not listen to my clip before you imply something about it??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Meerman Scott</title><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/#comment-14062</link> <dc:creator>David Meerman Scott</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:17:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://twopointouch.com/?p=1282#comment-14062</guid> <description>Thanks for adding to this discussion. When I posted my rant, I did not expect such a reaction.
I think communicating on the Web with constituents is as fundamental as communicating on the telephone with them.
But I do not know of any company that calculates the ROI of investing in providing telephones (and the time it takes to talk on them) for employees.
David</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for adding to this discussion. When I posted my rant, I did not expect such a reaction.</p><p>I think communicating on the Web with constituents is as fundamental as communicating on the telephone with them.</p><p>But I do not know of any company that calculates the ROI of investing in providing telephones (and the time it takes to talk on them) for employees.</p><p>David</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jamie Turner</title><link>http://twopointouch.com/2010/business/social-media-roi-again/#comment-14045</link> <dc:creator>Jamie Turner</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:41:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://twopointouch.com/?p=1282#comment-14045</guid> <description>Thanks for your post on social media ROI.
Measuring social media is, of course, the big issue right now. Interestingly, it&#039;s really not all that difficult, despite what David Meerman Scott implies (I&#039;m reading between the lines here, but it looks like he&#039;s saying that, like traditional media, it&#039;s not all that measurable. Nothing could be further from the truth).
Your readers may be interested in a white paper on the 60 Second Marketer website called &quot;Top 10 Ways to Measure a Social Media Campaign.&quot; It&#039;s available here:
http://www.60SecondMarketer.com/Social
It includes 10 different metrics you can use to measure the effectiveness of a social media campaign, the most important being profits.
I hope it helps!
Best,
Jamie Turner
Chief Content Officer
60 Second Marketer</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your post on social media ROI.</p><p>Measuring social media is, of course, the big issue right now. Interestingly, it’s really not all that difficult, despite what David Meerman Scott implies (I’m reading between the lines here, but it looks like he’s saying that, like traditional media, it’s not all that measurable. Nothing could be further from the truth).</p><p>Your readers may be interested in a white paper on the 60 Second Marketer website called “Top 10 Ways to Measure a Social Media Campaign.” It’s available here:</p><p><a
href="http://www.60SecondMarketer.com/Social" rel="nofollow">http://www.60SecondMarketer.com/Social</a></p><p>It includes 10 different metrics you can use to measure the effectiveness of a social media campaign, the most important being profits.</p><p>I hope it helps!</p><p>Best,</p><p>Jamie Turner</p><p>Chief Content Officer</p><p>60 Second Marketer</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
